[PnP] Elf Shot questions

[J Hooten]

thanks again, I will verify with my hardcopy original books this week.
I think I understand the basic variants, just need to make sure to use 
the correct one to match the GMs version
In this case it should be original books + errata which appears to be 10 
for bow, 5 for arrow precast only

It should be effective for an Invisible Faerry Sniper, even against an 
armored target

Wout Broere wrote:
> Keep in mind that v 1.3 includes our house rules. This is one of them to 
> tone down Elf Shot. The original rule indeed requires rolls (plus 10 
> mana) only at dedication, and only mana expenditure when the shot is taken.
>
> In this way it is a powerful spell.
>
> The EL+1 arrows limit is a v2.0 addition.
>
> J Hooten wrote:
>   
>> Lets see if I understand this
>> Cast once to dedicate bow but at cost=10 mana
>> Cast once for each arrow dedicated cost=5 or 2 mana
>> Then cast to actually fire the arrow at cost=bmc+2*el?
>>
>> Then its cast spell, on phase spell completes shoot arrow?
>>
>> oh well, shoot and fire rules would work ok for a fast caster, so may 
>> work out.
>> The limitations on target HP and doing damage through armor greatly 
>> restrict its use
>>
>> I was looking at use of this spell as a quiet sniper style attack, 
>> render target unconscious without a lot of extra noise
>>
>> Ooops I just noticed this text below the spell in the pdf book, need to 
>> verify original book
>> NOTE — Success rolls are required to dedicate the Bow and each arrow. 
>> They are not required for each shot.
>>
>> That suggests it is a cast in advance and just shoot making it far far 
>> more powerful!
>> And cheap!
>>
>> pdf version 3 of book 2 has different note?
>> NOTE — Success rolls are required for each shot, and to dedicate the Bow 
>> and each arrow.
>>
>> New edition rules says this, back to earlier method with cheaper arrows 
>> in mass?
>> *NOTE *— /Success rolls are required to dedicate the Bow and EL+1 
>> arrows. They are not required for each shot. If damage is scored, the 
>> spell has its affect./
>>
>> Precast is far better for a sniper operation, as long as they dont 
>> expire too quickly
>>
>> Scott Adams wrote:
>>     
>>> At 11:35 PM 5/5/08, you wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Anyone ever use this spell?
>>>> Says 10 mana to dedicate Bow, 5 for Arrow in original rules
>>>> Does the spell need to be cast each time an arrow is shot?
>>>> If so how does that work?
>>>> Part of the same phase action cast and fire?
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> We've used it often here.  I've not studied the v2 on this one to see if it changed.  Ahh it did change.  Arrows are 2 now not 5.  Much cheaper.
>>>
>>> I seve it that the bow can be dedciated once and lasts until the restriction is broken (ie using it for different purpose).  Think of it like a temp perm action.  It can be dedicated long before a combat.  Arrows same way.  Though in the past we did say arrows had to be done within a X amount of time before combat.  Those rules didn't last long though.  So Arrows can be done anytime and last as well.  The actual elf shot is cast for each dedication if I recall.  Honestly been awhile since we used it here.  Some have argued time limits for it.  
>>>
>>> Since I invented Archery Powers (now in v2) I've had to tweak some of the casting and fire bits here.  I usually employ the spell effect in Magic Effect AND/or missile fire segments depending on situation and spell.  
>>>
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