[PnP] pnp Digest, Vol 141, Issue 2 - re: Sire (giggle)

Bessie Hadley eleabess at sbcglobal.net
Tue Sep 5 20:35:54 CEST 2017


So glad you noticed this - I always just stared at it and went "du-uh!" LOL. 

I approve of your change - not only more accurate, but very clear (although leaves either parent to being inimical, not just the sire, which still works for me)


Bess L. Hadley 

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 I have changed this to
 "Where the parent is inimical, the
 character is always sired by a 
 non-human father."
 
 Found a few typo's/scan erros in the
 NMI section and have corrected 
 those. If anyone else has textual
 chnges/corrections, please let me know.
 
 Wout
 
 On 29-11-16 22:35, Bessie Hadley
 wrote:
 > "Where a Sire is inimical, the
 father is always the Sire." Sire means "father, or male
 parent." Can that be made less awkward, or maybe we need to
 rephrase it another way - gave me a double-take & a
 giggle (tch, tch). Thanks for the information anyway.
 > 
 > 
 > Bess L. Hadley
 > 
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 >   Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016
 21:47:40 -0500
 >   From: Scott Adams <longshotgm at comcast.net>
 >   To: pnp at list.powersandperils.org
 >   Subject: [PnP] Half Breeds
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 >   Ok guys.  Richard is
 our God and never makes no
 >   mistakes.  Its lowly
 >   humans who mis read and
 interpret these wonderful world of
 >   P&P.
 >   
 >   First I've been making
 great progress on my ship project
 >   after years
 >   of idle time.  i've
 cut down the data to half.  A
 >   big step. :)  More
 >   work I've done this last
 couple months in years.
 >   
 >   Second I'm also in my spare
 time (hour there and here)
 >   working on
 >   a pc generator.  I did
 one years ago but its outdated.
 >   
 >   I've come up with this
 confusing thing...half breeds.
 >   We may dislike
 >   them and think it
 stupid.  But we still need to figure
 >   it out.
 >   
 >   Recap: Normally we are
 Human, Dwarf, Elf, Faerry.
 >   
 >   So heres the rule:
 >   
 >   HALFBREEDS (OPTIONAL)
 >   
 >      There are
 other races that can have viable
 >   offspring with
 >      humans. The
 result of such unions is
 >   halfbreed characters
 >      that may share
 some or all of the talents
 >   of their non-human
 >      sire. If the
 race is beneficent, the
 >   initial training of the
 >      character
 depends on the sex of his
 >   mother. If she is human,
 >      he is raised
 human. If not, he is raised
 >   non-human.
 >   
 >   ----
 >   Let's break that down.
 >     1.  First line
 other races with humans = half
 >   breed.
 >         So
 this means a rampaging goblin
 >   Human.  It doesn't
 mention
 >        
 Elf/Faerry.  (DWarves we learn
 >   later can't have half
 breeds).
 >     2.  So next big
 part is share genetics from non
 >   human (X) and Human
 >         again
 restricting it to Human only.
 >   ------
 >   
 >   Where the sire is inimical,
 the sire is always the father.
 >   In most
 >   cases, the mother dies
 giving birth to him and he is
 >   fostered to
 >   another human family. No
 other possibility leaves a
 >   character extant
 >   to be played.
 >   
 >   -----
 >   Last line could be seen
 differently as your either a half
 >   human or
 >   nothing else.
 >   
 >   ------
 >   NOTE - I only mention those
 races whose breeding with humans
 >   can
 >   possibly yield a playable
 character. Among those I omit are
 >   the
 >   children of daivas, drugas
 and high caste Korchi. The first
 >   two
 >   are automatically daivas or
 drugas. The last is rarely found
 >   outside
 >   Korchi territory (unless
 conquering someone).
 >   ----
 >   So richard seems to imply
 that his chart below is only for
 >   human and
 >   X mixes.  So again
 this implies no Elf/Faerry.
 >   
 >   ------
 >   BEING A HALFBREED
 >       Because
 Characters are exceptional
 >   members of their
 >         
   race a player who
 >   wishes to try for this
 attribute has
 >         
   a 10% chance of
 >   having a halfbreed
 character UNLESS his
 >         
   character is a Dwarf.
 >   There are no Dwarf
 halfbreeds.
 >       If the
 Character is a halfbreed the
 >   Referee may assign
 >         
   the non-human parent
 >   based on where the campaign
 is
 >         
   starting. If he does
 >   not choose to do so, roll
 on the
 >         
   Breeding Races table.
 >   Once the race is
 determined, roll
 >         
   1D2 for the non-human
 >   parents sex if necessary.
 The
 >         
    parent's sex will affect
 >   the Character's starting
 >         
    knowledge and other
 >   factors.
 >   -------
 >   So we see here Dwarves
 can't be half breeds.  Yet we
 >   read above it
 >   implies that only humans
 can be such? Huh?
 >   So Ref can figure out non
 human parent implying possible
 >   Elf/Faerry?
 >   Then h ementions the d2 for
 non human parent which brings us
 >   back to
 >   one must be human.
 >   
 >   -----
 >   BREEDING RACES (Roll D100)
 >   ROLL   RACE
 >   ROLL   RACE
 >      ROLL 
 RACE
 >   01     Alfar
 >      24-30 
 Nymph
 >   76-79 Trazire
 >   02+03  Incubus* 
     31-35
 >   Faerry     80-82
 Sernemu
 >   04+05 
 Pseudothei*   36-42
 >   Jinn      
 83-86 Devil*
 >   06+07  Anwora*
 >      43-48 
 Demon*
 >      87-90 Whisper
 >   08-10  Daoine Sidhe*
 49-55  Elf
 >       91-93
 Seirim*
 >   11-13  Vily
 >   56-58  True Sidhe
 94+95 Lunafey
 >   14-16  Troll* 
       59-64
 >   Nar'morel  96+97 Eld
 Troll*
 >   17-20  Baobhan
 >      65-67 
 Romati
 >      98+99 Fusin
 >   21-23  Mir
 >      68-75 
 Goblin*
 >   100   Green Lady
 >   
 >   ----
 >   So I see Flf in table.
 Human/Elf fine.
 >   But why not a Elf-Vily?
 >   
 >   -----
 >   * These races are always
 the FATHER in the union. In some
 >   cases this
 >   is because only males
 exist. For others, the child with that
 >   race as
 >   mother does not yield a
 playable character.
 >   
 >   
 >       So....
 >   
 >       Are there
 Human / X Half breeds only?
 >   
 >       Why does he
 say no Half-Dwarves if its only
 >   humans?
 >   
 >       That would
 imply a Elf / X or Faerry / X
 >   
 >       If that Dwarf
 wasn't there I'd say its only
 >   Human / X.
 >       But that also
 seems unfair.  Why can't a
 >   Elf and Demon
 >       mix?
 >   
 >       Wout seems to
 agree with me that the wording
 >   needs work.
 >   
 >       How do you
 follow these rules.  Thanks!
 >   
 >       So I can code
 it. :)
 >   
 >   
 >   
 >   
 >   
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