<DIV>Actually, with all the options pulled out, P&P is only moderately complex. A few minor changes could do a LOT of simplification, with the "complications" we all love being listed in an "Options" section of the books. Possibly, a "Starter Book (Book Zero)" could include cut-down basic rules, with the standard rules being listed in the other books (had anyone here played Star Frontiers? They used a similar approache, but the system never became very complex.).</DIV>
<DIV> I've also noticed that my new players have the HARDEST time with character creation. A pregenerated adventure or two with premade characters (including an explaination as to how their points were spent) could be VERY helpful... the best way to learn a system is to play it.<BR><BR><B><I>Alex Koponen <akoponen@MOSQUITONET.COM></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">One thing that the reborn P&P would need is an easier way of learning the<BR>system. P&P has too steep a learning curve to be massively popular. While<BR>it is easy enough to learn if someone who already knows the system is<BR>teaching you, learning it by yourself is time consuming and probably quite<BR>difficult for those not already familiar with role playing games. I was<BR>familiar with a lot of games and it took me three weeks to fully grasp how<BR>P&P works. BTW It is a very elegant design, I like it.<BR><BR>Another problem is that some players just cannot (or don't want to bother<BR>to)handle the paperwork involved in creating a character and in keeping<BR>track of expertise for each skill plus CEP et cetera. This reduces the<BR>number of players by more than just that number since many groups of<BR>players will skip the game because a small percentage of th
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reject<BR>the game. (It happened to my group despite two of us being very positive<BR>about P&P and another being okay with it. Two other players effectively<BR>nixed the group continuing to play P&P.)<BR><BR>Alex Koponen<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Richard Snider" <ABNARIC@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>> Secondarily, I am considering a return to the battlefield in the near<BR>> future, i.e a rebirth of the P&P Phoenix. If anyone has any comments or<BR>> suggestions I want to hear them.<BR>> Richard L. Snider<BR>> author - Powers and Perils<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>