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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=385383118-25022004>Another hot proposal to for y'all to club to death
:} This one even more contraversal, I'll bet.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>Most
"modern" systems have gone to a more granular numbering scheme for attributes
and skills, as opposed to the percentile skills of P&P or Runequest and the
(effectively) percentile attributes of P&P.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>The
benefits are primarily streamlined math and easing of the learning
curve.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>Going
with my otherwise proposed dicing (2d6+3 for low, 3d6+2 for medium, 2d6+8 for
high), or "classic" (2d10), add racial/sexual modifiers and divide by 5, round
up.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=385383118-25022004> 1-5 = 1</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=385383118-25022004> 6-10 = 2</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>
11-15 = 3</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>
16-20 = 4</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>
21=25 = 5</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>When
multipliers are assigned (whole number only), you get the maximums. Thus,
a native of 3 assigned a x3 has a maximum of 9.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>This
would require an overall recalc of all funtions, since the key attributes are
now 1/5th the previous.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>So,
what have we gained?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>1) The
step down brings numbers into the "fast math" range. working with
multiples of single digits is quicker for Joe Average than divisions of multiple
digits.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>2) Any
increase is VERY meaningful, whereas a single point before have very little
impact for all the math you had to do in recalculating.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=385383118-25022004>Cons:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>1) We
have to refigure EVERY formula. Some may need to be tweaked (Anything that
is Attribute x2 would reformulate to Attribute x0.4, tweak to
Attribute/2). Skill maximums will do well ((I+W)/10 now becomes
(I+W)/2 -- Bonus! A simple average!)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>2)
Experience gains in order to increate attributes will go up a quanta (250 points
per combat attribute, 125 points per magic attribute). This may be a
wash.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>Now,
Hit points and damage can remain the same, unless you want to run damage
rolls through the /5 conversion as well (which would produce some
interesting results...anything that does at least 1 point of "unconverted"
damage goes from being a pittence to signifiant hits. "Scratches"
would be getting a 0 or less damage result, obviously.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=385383118-25022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=385383118-25022004>I do
think reducing the fine numbers to more granular ones does have a benefit, as
long as the overall "flavor" of their effect is maintained. While not as
"impressive" on a sheet, Joe the Barbarian with his mighty 15 S is still 5x the
bad ass of Joe Normal with his 3, just as the guy with 11 is not as buff as the
guy with 55. It certainly is visual...you see some sheet with double-digit
stats and you know it's trouble. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Albert Sales
[mailto:drite_mi@YAHOO.COM]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:56
PM<BR><B>To:</B> POWERS-AND-PERILS@GEO.CITG.TUDELFT.NL<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Attribute Gen proposal for v2<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I, personally, LOVE the fractionals, and have no trouble with them. The
charts make it hard to see where there is a problem. If fractionals are
to be removed, I recommend doing so by doubling (3-8 in standard multipliers),
and doubling divisors and algebraics (the bonus table has a top range of: Some
of digits to (Bonus+2) x 5, use x 10 instead). This would still allow
the range, and would get rid of the fractions. However, creatures would have
their average stats doubled, as well. It is a thought.<BR><BR><B><I>Sylverrs_
dragon <abnaric@HOTMAIL.COM></I></B> wrote:
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">My
thought would be to add something like the proposed system as an
optional<BR>rule. I also think revising the generation system by eliminating
fractional<BR>multipliers might be a good idea. They were included
originally to allow the<BR>player more flexibility. Didn't think the math
involved would be a problem<BR>but it
was.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>