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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#3366ff" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#3366FF'>I hear Gurps is a good system. I
read the stuff youdid years ago on the list but not sure if I read the cost
stuff. I recall you doing some basic build rules and those I have and
used up to this point.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Take a look at my construction rules again. All of the costs for
materials are based on the time to gather them or construct them, times the
labor cost. This makes sense in a medieval/ancient world mindset <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#3366ff" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#3366FF'>3) For each ship determine the quantity
of raw materials (lumber). Determine time in man-days to produce the raw
materials and multiply by the gatherer cost (foresters). </span></font><font
color="#3366ff"><span style='color:#3366FF'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#3366ff" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#3366FF'>That section is in my chart I did on
every culture. I mention the amount<br>
of timber that is found in a resources column from poor, rare, good,<br>
and excellent (like excellent would be Chosahi). So I have a good idea
how to use this chart in my back brain right now.</span></font><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Perhaps I was not clear. I was talking materials required for the
ship (tons/boardfeet of lumber, gallons of pitch, yard of cloth or rope, etc),
not the resource level of the area.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Any advice on a typical price for a single beam ? Maybe 5 BB to determine
the amount<br>
of costs for a ship in that regard since wood is likely at LEAST 80-90% of the
cost.<br>
Course if you have a forest you just cut down a tree and theres no cost but
....the<br>
labor does play in that regard...as you mention above. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Even though the trees are “free”, there is always an indirect
cost. The owner of the shipyard still has to pay for the labor involved
in cutting the wood and preparing it for construction use. Even a king
who orders some schlub to do it “pays” indirectly in that the guy
has to be at least fed, and while doing that he is not doing his normal tasks
that would otherwise produce revenue for the kingdom. By basing it all on
the daily pay of the workers we can abstract out the costs for these “free”
trees, flax and hemp plants.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Looking at my construction rules, a lumberjack making 2SC/month.
It was figured that they can produce 100 square feet (1/2” thick) in 10
hours, which has a cost for that quantity of 8BB. That is 50 boardfeet of
lumber, or 4-1/6 cubic feet. If you assume a 50’ warship, the beam
would be about 10’, and the mast would be about 30’. For a 1’
diameter we are talking close to 45 cubic feet of wood, which is about 11 times
the above construction quantity. Ergo this would be 9SC and 110 man hours
to produce.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Now granted, we are not slicing up the tree just to nail it together
again, so if we assume that the time is cut to 1/3<sup>rd</sup>, then so is the
price. Your 30’ mast costs 3SC and takes 37 man hours to fell,
clean the bark off smooth and otherwise shape it to be a ship’s mast. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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