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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=FR link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>My 2CP,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>In my version of the rules i use the following (short version):<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>All tests are done under a Chance of Success (CS) which is computed the way you want.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Most of the rolls are then evaluated with the following<o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoTableGrid border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse;border:none'><tr><td width=128 valign=top style='width:95.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Critical Success <o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=152 valign=top style='width:113.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>01 to CS/10<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=37 valign=top style='width:27.5pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>tCS<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=326 valign=top style='width:244.55pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Great success, special effect obtained !<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=128 valign=top style='width:95.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Normal Success<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=152 valign=top style='width:113.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>CS/10+1 to CS<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=37 valign=top style='width:27.5pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>tNS<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=326 valign=top style='width:244.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Normal result<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=128 valign=top style='width:95.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Partial Success<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=152 valign=top style='width:113.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>CS+1 to CS+25<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=37 valign=top style='width:27.5pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>tPS<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=326 valign=top style='width:244.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Some result <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=128 valign=top style='width:95.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Normal Failure<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=152 valign=top style='width:113.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>CS+26 to 90+CS/10<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=37 valign=top style='width:27.5pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>tNF<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=326 valign=top style='width:244.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Failure, must find some other way to succeed<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=128 valign=top style='width:95.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Critical failure<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=152 valign=top style='width:113.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>>90+CS/10<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=37 valign=top style='width:27.5pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>tCF<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=326 valign=top style='width:244.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Very bad effect !<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoPlainText>Example : with a CS = 50 you have<o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoTableGrid border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse;border:none'><tr><td width=108 valign=top style='width:80.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Critical Success <o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 valign=top style='width:35.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>01-05<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=108 valign=top style='width:80.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Success<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 valign=top style='width:35.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>06-50<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=108 valign=top style='width:80.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Partial Success<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 valign=top style='width:35.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>51-75<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=108 valign=top style='width:80.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Failure<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 valign=top style='width:35.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>76-95<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=108 valign=top style='width:80.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Critical failure<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 valign=top style='width:35.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>96-00<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoPlainText>All tCS earn double the expertise.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>All tCF lower the skill by 1%, if any skill involved in the test.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>! Beware : all skills (profession, combat, general etc.) are evaluated in % (from 01 to 80).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hope it provides a new approach.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='mso-fareast-language:FR'>-----Message d'origine-----<br>De : pnp [mailto:pnp-bounces@list.powersandperils.org] De la part de Scott Adams<br>Envoyé : mardi 6 mai 2014 01:37<br>À : The Powers and Perils Mailing List<br>Objet : Re: [PnP] Magic user balancing</span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Interesting rule.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I do that sort of with crits with even 100+ chance. But I use the basic ABy charts I think Burotn dd up. I like those. A bit more cruel but fun.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Losing energy seems...I dunno....not something I'd do.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>At 11:34 PM 5/2/2014, you wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>I do consider magic users overpowered in P&P.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>The balancing factor that I implement in my game is to make it more <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>dangerous to cast spells. It does require more paperwork for the GM.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>I thought that I had put it on the website, but I just found out I hadn't.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>Unless the character has mana sensing they aren't told what their <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>current casting ability and energy levels are. These are kept track of <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>by the GM.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>Each spell is rolled in secret by the GM, with an extra die roll if the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>spell is not a success.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>If the roll is success, congratulations the spell is a success. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>Standard costs and effects apply.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>If the roll is an abysmal failure then the usual penalties apply.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>If the spell is a failure then reroll:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> reroll a success = the spell is a normal failure. As per the book.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> reroll a failure = normal failure + lose a point of energy <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>from EnL and lose an additional 1d6 or BMC+EL (whichever is lower) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>mana points as if cast.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> reroll an abysmal failure = lose 1d10 from EnL and lose 1d6<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> + BMC+EL mana points as if cast.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>Note that if mana points are too low one completes the spell casting <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>from their EnL. If EnL gets to 0 the character is dead and unresurrectable.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>I do allow wizards to wear armor.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Alex Koponen<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>On 5/2/2014 3:05 PM, Paul L. 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