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</xml><![endif]--><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">Thereafter, he is a Rune Master. He can use
Elder Magics and Permanent Magic as a magic-user. Any Dwarf who becomes a Rune
Master increases his station to six if it is lower."</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2883" dir="ltr"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2884" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">So, if, in character creation, you roll 91+ for station, getting the magic station of 4+ for Armorer, and you have an Intelligence (and/or Will) of 50, then you could immediately spend the 150 expertise points at character creation to become a Rune Master? Immediately changing your station to 6? Would that retro-actively change your initial increase factor or your starting coin type?</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2885" dir="ltr"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2823" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">Finally the rules on what being a Rune Master means are pretty thin. How many of the Elder and Permanent magic spells does the Dwarf start with? What's his MEL and EL? Would you determine starting MEL & EL as for wizard, sidh & shaman in book 2?</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2886" dir="ltr"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2887" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">If I go all the way back to my paper copies of the books, from my original boxed set, the game does specifically state, in Book Three, page 35:</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2906" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">"A Dwarf character that reaches EL50 as an Armorer can learn<br style="" class="">these rites. To do so he must complete a 150 expertise point initiation<br style="" class="">and training session. Thereafter, he is a Rune Master and can use Elder<br style="" class="">Magics and Permanent Magic as magic-users. Any Dwarf who becomes<br style="" class="">a Rune Master will increase his station to six if it is lower."</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2907" dir="ltr"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2913" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">It would seem that Richard Snider did intend for this to be an option open to PLAYER characters.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2914" dir="ltr"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2915" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">Any help would be appreciated.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2916" dir="ltr"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2917" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2731" class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">Thanks!<br></span></div><div style="" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433454423751_2720" dir="ltr"> </div></div></body></html>