<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Sorry, hit send too fast. The result was also limited by the EL of the target, so if they had EL20, that was the cap you could start with.<br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Burton Choinski <<a href="mailto:bchoinski@verizon.net" class="">bchoinski@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Just to jump in after a long absence since my group has not played “pure” P&P for quite a while now, but I still like shepherding systems. :)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As per the V2 rules, If you cast the Tongues spell at the 5x rate (which we required as a “ritual”, with a casting rate in minutes instead of phases), and if you passed the learning test (roll less than Will+Empathy), you gain the Language at staring EL. For our games, starting EL in this case is what you roll, limited to a maximum of 80.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 7, 2018, at 8:56 PM, Scott Adams <<a href="mailto:longshotgm@comcast.net" class="">longshotgm@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">So a range of Em+(0)..100<br class="">At EL20. So really would only need EL16 and can stop for a 80.<br class="">Maybe a 3x instead 0-60. But good idea.<br class="">I was hoping ot see more GM/players post. But oh well.<br class="">Thanks.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">At 10:19 AM 11/28/2018, you wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Iâm of the opinion that players should be encouraged to practice their spells and improve them. You might consider the permanent gain to increase with the EL of the spell....something like: Starting Language EL+(5*Tongues spell cast) It gives reason to keep using the spell instead of a permanent magic item. Dave Sent from my iPad > On Nov 28, 2018, at 3:00 AM, <a href="mailto:pnp-request@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp-request@list.powersandperils.org</a> wrote: > > Send pnp mailing list submissions to > <a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > <a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp" class="">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp</a> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > <a href="mailto:pnp-request@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp-request@list.powersandperils.org</a> > > You can reach the person managing the list at > <a href="mailto:pnp-owner@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp-owner@list.powersandperils.org</a> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pnp digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Tongues (Scott Adams) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:46:37 -0500 > From: Scott Adams <<a href="mailto:longshotgm@comcast.net" class="">longshotgm@comcast.net</a>> > To: The Powers and Perils Mailing List <<a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a>> > Subject: Re: [PnP] Tongues > Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:mailman.2.1543402801.10047.pnp@list.powersandperils.org" class="">mailman.2.1543402801.10047.pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > > Remember max was v1. Startling Level is v2. Big Change. > Thus Em or EM/2 if diff Race. > Thanks. Will see what others think. > Yeah maybe limit it by actual spell eL. So Max ELx8? so 0-80 at el10. > > > > > At 07:54 PM 11/26/2018, you wrote: >> ? While the book says "maximum EL possible", I >> personally would have it max at the lower of >> starting EL which is variable depending upon >> character stats OR at the skill of the target. >> ? I would (if I were GM and in my game) say >> that the tongues spell can only grant the >> effective skill equal to the lower of the >> caster's Em stat (Em/2 if of another race, >> I+W+Em all /3 if supernatural) or the target's language skill. >> ? I suppose a variant of the spell with even >> more mana cost could be developed to grant "maximum EL possible". >> >> Alex K >> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 1:58 PM Scott Adams >> <<<a href="mailto:longshotgm@comcast.net" class="">mailto:longshotgm@comcast.net</a>><a href="mailto:longshotgm@comcast.net" class="">longshotgm@comcast.net</a>> wrote: >> Does anyone modify this spell? >> >> If Speaker is EL1 and Learner wants language. >> >> Do you do as is or do you lower the EL down to Speaker's EL? >> >> I mean let's say learner has chance to learn el80 (very high stats) >> But speaker only knows el10.? Do the gods bless learner with fulll >> fluency or just what speaker knows? >> >> A good topic for us GMS. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > > pnp mailing list >> <<a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" class="">mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a>><a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a> >> <a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp" class="">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp</a> >> >> _______________________________________________ > > pnp mailing list >> <a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a> >> <a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp" class="">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp</a> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <<a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/pipermail/pnp/attachments/20181127/32c909ac/attachment.html" class="">http://www.powersandperils.org/pipermail/pnp/attachments/20181127/32c909ac/attachment.html</a>> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pnp mailing list > <a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a> > <a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp" class="">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp</a> > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pnp Digest, Vol 152, Issue 6 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ pnp mailing list <a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a> <a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp" class="">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp</a><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">pnp mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp" class="">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">pnp mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" class="">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a><br class="">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>