<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-size: 13px;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: arial, sans-serif;">I'm thinking this was sent to the wrong list? Seems to be about D&D not P&P. Edition 3.5, I think.,<div><br></div><div>And hasn't fireball always been 3rd level? Since the ORIGINAL original boxed set back in '74<br><br><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,sans-serif; color: black;">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Hsingai Altaica <draltaica@yahoo.com>
<br>Sent: Jul 7, 2019 12:10 AM
<br>To: pnp@list.powersandperils.org
<br>Subject: [PnP] META: game(docutementation) design
<br><br><div class="yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Since I don't trust anyone else to behave like reasonable adults I thought I'd share my thoughts here</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">THe errata should be the final say on the rules and have all contradictions to the Rule Books. then Rule Books and finally to clear up ambiguities the FAQ.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"> "<span><span style="font-weight: 700; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Varela, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Benefit</span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Varela, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">: Pick one spell when you choose this trait. When you apply </span><a target="_blank" href="https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats" style="text-decoration-line: underline; font-family: Varela, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(0, 57, 101) !important;" rel="nofollow" class="">metamagic feats</a><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Varela, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> to this spell that add at least 1 level to the spell, treat its actual level as 1 lower for determining the spell’s final adjusted level."</span></span><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">THis wording has the affordance that Usually metamagic can't lower a spells adjusted level below it's actual level</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><h2 style="margin: 24px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: "Open Sans Bold", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: normal; font-size: 18px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">THeir FAQ states:"Magical Lineage (trait): Can I use this trait to adjust a spell's effective level below the unmodified spell's original level?</h2><blockquote style="margin: 15px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"><p style="margin-top: 0px;">No. For example, it won't allow you to alter a wizard's <i style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;">fireball</i> into 2nd-level spell." But the trait says that the original level of a wizard's fireball spell is 2 BEFORE being modified.</p></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></draltaica@yahoo.com></blockquote></div></div></body></html>