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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Some Powers & Perils talk:</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">As a teenager, I found character creation sometimes confusing, and other times overly burdensome especially where ability advancement was concerned. It was written easy enough or me to essentially houserule abilities to be at maximum at the start of play such that you never increased them in play. Instead, you focused on increasing Experience Levels, Skill Levels and acquiring magic items.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I've got:<br>Two complete Boxed sets of P&P</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The Book of Tables</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The Tower of the Dead</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Perilous Lands</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">A complete photocopied set of P&P rules</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Terrible (but memorable) home-brewed adventures<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">...and a stack of dead character sheets including the most popular:</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Chet "the steel" Fist</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">S 76</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">St 48</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">D 64</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">A 49</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I 20</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">W 12 </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">E 11</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Em 9</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">C 90</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Ap 51</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Mana Level 5<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">MDV 5</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Age 24</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Station 1</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Height 6'7"</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Weight 243 lbs</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">HP 54</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">CEL 6</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">OCV 12</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">DCV 11</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Skills: Donaran 80, City Survival 5, Rhetoric 5, Hand to Hand 12, Great Sword 7, Swimming 1, Sign Language 1, (Unintelligible) 30.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Special Attribute: Able to communicate with dogs as a language.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Equipment: Sandals, Robe, Belt, Great Sword </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Killed a bunch of giants. Died falling off a cliff.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"> </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Cheers!</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Tom in Las Vegas</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 04:23:24 PM PDT, Thomas O. Magann Jr. <tmagann@earthlink.net> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp3a81db37yiv7308500580"><div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif;"><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Well, for my part, when you use examples for a game I'm less than familiar with and t hat isn't what this list is designed for, I don't really follow it, and I wonder why it's here.<div><br></div><div>But that's just me. I'm on this list for Powers and Perils matters, not Pathfinder matters, and I really don't are what issues Piazo has with their books and rule sets. <br><br>I wouldn't mind seeing someone post something P&P to the P&P list, however. It's been awhile.<br><br><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Hsingai Altaica
<br>Sent: Jul 9, 2019 10:50 AM
<br>To: The Powers and Perils Mailing List
<br>Subject: Re: [PnP] META: chgame(docutementation) design
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On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:33:16 PM CDT, Thomas O. Magann Jr. <tmagann@earthlink.net> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp3a81db37yiv7308500580ydp69aaf99cyiv3542216603"><div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif;">but for a P&P list you could possibly find P&P examples?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----
<br clear="none">From: Hsingai Altaica
<br clear="none">Sent: Jul 8, 2019 7:38 PM
<br clear="none">To: "Thomas O. Magann Jr."
<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PnP] META: game(docutementation) design
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On Sunday, July 7, 2019, 10:38:01 AM CDT, Thomas O. Magann Jr. <tmagann@earthlink.net> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp3a81db37yiv7308500580ydp69aaf99cyiv3542216603ydpa17f1fc8yiv6358804390"><div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif;">I'm thinking this was sent to the wrong list? Seems to be about D&D not P&P. Edition 3.5, I think.,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>And hasn't fireball always been 3rd level? Since the ORIGINAL original boxed set back in '74<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----
<br clear="none">From: Hsingai Altaica
<br clear="none">Sent: Jul 7, 2019 12:10 AM
<br clear="none">To: pnp@list.powersandperils.org
<br clear="none">Subject: [PnP] META: game(docutementation) design
<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="ydp3a81db37yiv7308500580ydp69aaf99cyiv3542216603ydpa17f1fc8yiv6358804390yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr">Since I don't trust anyone else to behave like reasonable adults I thought I'd share my thoughts here</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">THe errata should be the final say on the rules and have all contradictions to the Rule Books. then Rule Books and finally to clear up ambiguities the FAQ.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> "<span><span style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Varela, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Benefit</span><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Varela, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">: Pick one spell when you choose this trait. When you apply </span><a shape="rect" class="ydp3a81db37yiv7308500580ydp69aaf99cyiv3542216603ydpa17f1fc8yiv6358804390" href="https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats" style="text-decoration-line:underline;font-family:Varela, sans-serif;font-size:16px;color:rgb(0, 57, 101) !important;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">metamagic feats</a><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Varela, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> to this spell that add at least 1 level to the spell, treat its actual level as 1 lower for determining the spell’s final adjusted level."</span></span><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">THis wording has the affordance that Usually metamagic can't lower a spells adjusted level below it's actual level</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><h2 style="margin:24px 0px 0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:Sans Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-weight:normal;font-size:18px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);">THeir FAQ states:"Magical Lineage (trait): Can I use this trait to adjust a spell's effective level below the unmodified spell's original level?</h2><blockquote style="margin:15px;padding:0px;border:0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:medium;"><p style="margin-top:0px;">No. For example, it won't allow you to alter a wizard's <i style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;">fireball</i> into 2nd-level spell." But the trait says that the original level of a wizard's fireball spell is 2 BEFORE being modified.</p></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div>
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