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On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 09:36:25 AM PST, David Sanders <dasandersx@comcast.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">The rule says any weapon. All of the modifiers for MA are physical.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Personally I would use the skill sparingly, only allowing it to be used in characters from areas that might originate it (such as far east), but also then having locals treating the character an outsider…barely being civil, maybe not allowing him in their shops, or even fighting him. Also, I would not allow the MA character to use 'training' to improve the skill, but only by using the skill in combat. A MA character in the west or south wouldn’t find anybody that could teach him.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Jan 28, 2023, at 3:00 AM, <a href="mailto:pnp-request@list.powersandperils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pnp-request@list.powersandperils.org</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Send pnp mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="mailto:pnp-request@list.powersandperils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pnp-request@list.powersandperils.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="mailto:pnp-owner@list.powersandperils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pnp-owner@list.powersandperils.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">> than "Re: Contents of pnp digest..."<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> 1. Martial Arts EL bonus - Does it apply to missile weapons?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> (Doyle Tavener)<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 2. Re: Martial Arts EL bonus - Does it apply to missile weapons?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> (Alex Koponen)<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 00:57:18 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Doyle Tavener <<a href="mailto:javaapp@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">javaapp@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> To: <a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: [PnP] Martial Arts EL bonus - Does it apply to missile<br></div><div dir="ltr">> weapons?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <CANV8FQspg9itkV2kFnYRygsVcSmgsig6ESgoBoaAn1h0q-B+<a href="mailto:Wg@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wg@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hello all, first time posting.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Does the Martial Arts EL bonus apply to missile weapons?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Yes, I do know it's my campaign, but I would like to get a sense of how<br></div><div dir="ltr">> others handle it. My current thinking is that it doesn't, but there is also<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Zen archery, and I remember David Carradine throwing spears around on the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> TV series, Kung Fu so maybe it should.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Yes, I'm that old.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Doyle Wayne Ramos-Tavener<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> ...it is not reasonable to assume that Aristotle knew the Number of the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Elect...<br></div><div dir="ltr">> - Albertus Magnus<br></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">> URL: <<a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/pipermail/pnp/attachments/20230128/6f26aa1a/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.powersandperils.org/pipermail/pnp/attachments/20230128/6f26aa1a/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 00:57:05 -0900<br></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Alex Koponen <<a href="mailto:alexkoponen@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">alexkoponen@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> To: The Powers and Perils Mailing List <<a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [PnP] Martial Arts EL bonus - Does it apply to missile<br></div><div dir="ltr">> weapons?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a href="mailto:CAKhDruHWQkahHqvv9yXCyXTaesCi8yu2md65U3BoV5OVm-QKPA@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CAKhDruHWQkahHqvv9yXCyXTaesCi8yu2md65U3BoV5OVm-QKPA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> I am not familiar with a specific skill called Martial Arts. But all<br></div><div dir="ltr">> martial skills apply their EL bonus to use of the specific weapon. Some,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> like Assassin, apply to all combat rolls regardless of weapon type. If one<br></div><div dir="ltr">> has house ruled a generic 'Martial Artist' skill and I were the GM I would<br></div><div dir="ltr">> rule that the EL would apply to any weapon the 'Martial Artist' skill<br></div><div dir="ltr">> applies to, but only using the greater of the Assassin and Martial Artist<br></div><div dir="ltr">> bonus rather than cumulative effect if the character has both.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Alex Koponen<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 9:57 PM Doyle Tavener <<a href="mailto:javaapp@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">javaapp@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Hello all, first time posting.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Does the Martial Arts EL bonus apply to missile weapons?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Yes, I do know it's my campaign, but I would like to get a sense of how<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> others handle it. My current thinking is that it doesn't, but there is also<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Zen archery, and I remember David Carradine throwing spears around on the<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> TV series, Kung Fu so maybe it should.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Yes, I'm that old.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Doyle Wayne Ramos-Tavener<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> ...it is not reasonable to assume that Aristotle knew the Number of the<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Elect...<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> - Albertus Magnus<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> pnp mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">> URL: <<a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/pipermail/pnp/attachments/20230128/ef47be7f/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.powersandperils.org/pipermail/pnp/attachments/20230128/ef47be7f/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Digest Footer<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> pnp mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> End of pnp Digest, Vol 174, Issue 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ***********************************<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">pnp mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:pnp@list.powersandperils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pnp@list.powersandperils.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.powersandperils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pnp</a><br></div></div>
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