Movement rules

[Alex Koponen]

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From: "John Hooten" <jhooten at BINARY.NET>
To: <POWERS-AND-PERILS at geo000.CiTG.TUDelft.NL>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:22 PM
Subject: Movement rules


> I have always wondered about movement in P&P
> A horse with move 24 can go 24 miles a day on road or grass?

A fit horse, properly fed, could carry a light rider more than
100 miles/day. But not for very many days in a row.

> But a horse can run that far in an 1/2 hour if it could maintain a run
> that long
No, it can go maybe a mile at that speed before exhaustion halts it.

> So that means it actually is walking lazily or grazing often!
Horses walk about the same speed as people (and will snatch bites to
eat while doing so). To maximize speed one alternately trots and walks
(the walk rests the horse).
btw People CAN outrun horses over the long haul. Primitive hunters
often ran down their game till it was too exhausted to run.
>
> I am sure they based the moves on a long term average
> What we need is a rule using stamina and constitution that controls long
> runs
> There may be a rule that already covers 2x moves for horses at risk of
> death
> But that doesnt cover say a need to be a few miles away in a short time

How close to reality do you need the simulation rules? Remember that
rules get more complex and slow the game down when getting more
realistic than a certain level of abstraction.
As ref I would use progressively harder tests vs. Stamina + Constitution
with modifications for amount slowed from max sprint speed.
>
> Combat movement:
> Speed in mile per hour = (movement rate * 10 feet / 12 sec turn)*3600
> sec/hour*1mile/5280 feet = .57 * movement rate
> This says a horse moves at 13.7 mph which is 1/3 of a run(37mph in 1
> mile race)
> A human 10 then is 5.7 miles a hour which is 2x a normal walk
> And 1/3 of a 4 minute mile(15mph), sprints exceed 1/4(23mph)
> Does anyone remember marathon running speeds?
> 26.1 miles in 2:36:09 for Kona Marathon (10mph)
> 5km(3.1mile) in 18:58(9.8mph)
> Olympic marathon 11.8mph by Abebe Bikila 1964
>
But they weren't loaded down with armor and equipment.
Sure, an Olympic sprinter can briefly exceed 20 mph but it is
more realistic to check Roman marching speeds (20 miles/day?).
I think horses max out at 45 mph.

> BUT P&P daily move equals movement rate in miles per 12 hours which is
> very slow
> They must be stopping for munchies alot or sight seeing
>
> Movement types from above data:
> walk=1/2 move, jog=move, long run= 2x move, short run=3x move, sprint=4x
> move
> walks can be done for very long durations
> jogs ???
> with long runs of 2 hours being dangerous as marathon runners are in bad
> shape at finish
> short runs are 4 minute area with minimal chance of damage
> sprints are 1 minute area
>
> As characters are exceptional by definition they should be able to
> perform at olympic levels
Remember that most Characters are carrying gear.
> Maybe sprints up to stamina bonus minutes and then chance of damage
> based on con?
Even Olympic athletes can't keep up max speed beyond a couple hundred yards.

> Run duration based on stamina with rolls to determine when you must slow
> down or be damaged?
>
> Thats all for now, maybe someone else has some ideas here?
>
See above.

    Alex