[PnP] Magic users in P&P are as weak as AD&D magicians

[Scott Adams]

Yes.
But its not documented.  In my brain mostly.
Nothing in set stone sadly.
I balance based on the situation and person not in a global term.
Most folks will say "I have 120% on this spell I can't fail!"
Well in my world there is always a critical success and crit fail.
so even if that 120 is there can still fail badly.
This is sort of like the gods/fates playing around.
I take into gear, magic toys and other stuff in balance.
Pick up a Super Bad Ring of X then I'll balance it by a weakness or 
enemy having worse gear or such.




At 07:05 PM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
>Hiya.
>
>  On a side note...
>
>  Has anyone else implemented some sort of 'balancing factor' with 
> regards to wizards & armor? I did for my campaign, for all casters 
> of Mana *and* innate powers that duplicate/mimic "spells". It's 
> simple; for every AV point worn, the cost to cast goes up by that 
> amount, squared. So with AV1, +1 mana/EnL. With AV 3, +9 mana/EnL. 
> I ignore all magical bonuses to AV...only the "flat, non-magical AV 
> of average armor" is used (so having AV 5 Chain still only counts as AV 3.
>
>   I played with other variants...AV as a -1 to EL per AV, and 5% 
> per AV chance of any failure automatically being Abysmal, etc. In 
> the end, I liked the "AV squared as extra Mana"; simple and no 
> extra dice rolling.
>
>   I let priests cast spells *without* this extra MP drain, but 
> _only_ when they are not in a rushed/combat situation (e.g., if 
> casting a spell in combat, they pay extra; after the battle, with 
> no more threats, casting doesn't cost extra). This gave the 
> MU/Priest spell's an ever so slightly different flavour.
>
>^_^
>
>Paul L. Ming
>
>PS: As to the original "P&P wizard = weak"...the opposite is what 
>I've found. P&P wizards (spells, basically) are easily on-par with 
>AD&D ones at a minimum....usually they are FAR more powerful in my experience.
>
>
>
>
>On 02-May-14 12:32 PM, Burton Choinski wrote:
>>Actually, a funny joke in my group is that when they show up 
>>against the enemy, the question is "Which one is the wizard?"
>>
>>The Law wizard is still kind of a Brute; He put into his physical 
>>stats because he rolled supernatural Intelligence.
>>
>>Sort of a side effect of P&P's "more-or-less" classless system, 
>>since wizards can wear armor and be equipped with fighter level weapons.
>
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